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comments and suggestions about any part of this site is most
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Wednesday, May 29, 2002
To:
From: julian@uraniannights.com
Subject: time machine
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:33:42 -0000
Organization: Uranian Nights dotcom / KathyCooper.net
Howdy,
At the bottom of;
http://www.milkbar.com.au/begin1.html
There's a 'Last Updated' bit at the bottom. Now I gather from the text on
the page, you are Australian and live in Australia. (i don't know of any
other place that has a Fitzroy in a Melbourne, do you?) So why would the
date either be in U.S. format, or incorrect (ahead of time)?
Ahh... I just took a look at your source code, and see that you use a script
to display the date last modified. Want it to automatically put the date
correctly? I put a page together (quite some time ago, and looks pretty
bodgey) that has some scripty stuff on there, and one especially for dates
in Australian format.
url: http://www.uraniannights.com/www/gooroo.cjb.net/simplejava.html
The script you'll want is at the bottom. There's only four scripts there, so
it'll only take a moment to find.
Have fun,
Julian.
(free website designer)
Webmaster:
http://kathycooper.net
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Wednesday, May 29, 2002
Tuesday, May 28, 2002
From: "Dion Teasdale" brownsuit@hotmail.com
To: milkbar@milkbar.com.au
Bcc:
Subject: Milkbar Connection
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 09:49:00 +1100
Hey Craig,
My name is Dion Teasdale. I've just visted your milkbar website for the first time and I wanted to drop you a line and tell you that I'm very interested in your work.
I'm currently studying for a Master of Arts in Creative Writing at RMIT. The practical component of my studies is the writing of a novel. It is titled, 'The Goose At Goldie's Milkbar' and, set in rural Victoria, it is the story of the relationship between an elderly female milkbar proprietor and the goose she rescues and rehabilitates.
While the focus of my exegesis is the use of human/animal relationships as a narrative tool in creative writing, there are a couple of areas in your work which are of particular interest to me.
Firstly, the 'milkbar' is a very potent symbol for your work and is very central to my narrative. I like the photographs you have on your website and I am wondering what other information you have collected about milkbars. I've noted one reference from your Bibliography (Collins, Jock. 'A Shop Full of Dreams: Ethic Small Business in Australia'. Pluto Press. Sydney 1995.), which I'm keen to take a look at, but if you have any other milkbar specific material I'd love to hear about it.
I've come across some pretty amazing milkbars in my travels (there's a great one here in Middle Park and an even better one in Port Melbourne, not to mention the excellent milkbar in Heathcote, on the Hume Highway - just to mention a few). As my novel in set in rural Victoria (the fictional township of Baxter's Creek which is caught in the grips of 'rural decline'), I have a particular interest in milkbars from small country towns. The milkbar in my story, Goldie's Milkbar, sits on the main street of Baxter's Creek, Monty Street, and has been closed for almost a decade. At the beginning of the story, Goldie, the proprietor, still lives out the back of the boarded up shop in a run down, three bedroom, sorry excuse for a house. During the course of the story, with the help of the goose, Goldie re-opens the milkbar. Small business fights back.
This might all sound rather strange and unrelated to you and your work, but I think there are a few cross over points.
In addition to the whole 'milkbar' thing, I am very interested in the online presentation of your work. My supervisor, Dr Katherine Phelps, completed a Phd on Digital and Computer-Mediated Storytelling and she is encouraging me to consider publishing my work (as it progresses) online. I hadn't found a good example of someone doing this until I came across your site. I've read through your methodology and am keen to see how your site develops in the near future. The interview content looks fantastic.
Finally, I also have a keen interest in documenting community-based stories. I have some experience in doing this. In 1999 I was invovled in a collaborative theatre project with a professinal theatre company from Melbourne (Arena Theatre) and a group of chronically ill and disabled teenagers based in Gellong. As the writer for the project I spent 10 weeks doing workshops with the young people before producing a script for a theatre production. The show was called 'Chronic' and it was inspired by the real life stories of the young people and performed by them as well. In 2000, I was commissoned by the Department of Human Services to document the process of creating community based theatre projects with ill/disabled young people and the resulting book, which brings together interviews with 40 of the project's participants, is like a written documentary of the production process and it was published in 2001.
Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that your site and your work are very impressive. If you have any information about 'milkbars' which you would be willing to share or have any questions about me or my work, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Keep up the good work.
Regards,
Dion Teasdale
posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
From: "Michael Singh" michael.singh@rmit.edu.au
To: milkbar@milkbar.com.au
Subject:
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:34:22 +1100
Hi Craig,
(snip)
I would be especially pleased if you could bring along a computer and organise a presentation of your site and the project you are working on.
I had a quick look at it - and noticed that you describe Tasmania as an island off the south coast of Australia - while this is a common statement - and may even be the preferred view of independent minded Tasmania's - it is still the case that Tasmania is a part of Australia (the nation-state).
(snip)
All the very best with finalising your PhD project.
Michael
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Professor Michael Singh
Director of RMIT Globalisation and Cultural
Diversity Research Concentration
Head, RMIT Language and International Studies
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 12:45:42 +0200
From: Johan Kok
Organization: Lumage, illuminated Products
To: milkbar@milkbar.com.au
Subject: info
Dear sir,
Is it possible to tell me how do you select he interviewed persons and
how did you choose the questions?
I am preparing for a phd proposal in globalization and I also want to
use interviews.
With regards,
M. Kok
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
From: "Narayanan Rakunathan"
To: milkbar@milkbar.com.au
Subject: Thank you!
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:47:04 +0800
Hi,
I'm a librarian from Singapore...formerly a teacher, did my masters in info studies ...contemplating PhD in "archival informatics and hypertext" or "integrating archival material into history curriculum using hypertext stories" ...something like that...
thank you very much for your bibliography...great leads!!
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 17:06:08 -0600 (CST)
From: "Lynn H. Nelson"
To: Craig Bellamy
cc: Lynn H. Nelson
Subject: Re: site (fwd)
Hello, Craig;
I was happy to add your site, partly because, although I've run
into the term "milk bar," I had little idea of what it was, and
those people who should have known had difficulty in explaining
the institution to me.
I also looked over the rest of your site and, in a phrase which
may or may not be current Down Under, I like the cut of your jib.
Contrary to public opinion in much of the world, there are, and
there have been for some time, leftists in the United States.
We've been kept down pretty well, though - by murder, prison,
deportation, and being send to Coventry. I have a couple of old
friends - we're all about seventy - who come over occasionally to
sip a few and lament the state of the nation. I thought that
things were bad in 1947, 1954, 1980, 1986, but have been cast
into the Slough of despond by the coup of 2000. Having spent some
years in Texas, I know his type and despise it.
In any event, I doing what I can given my age and physical
disabilities. You note WWW-VL History in your index of links. If
you will look closely, you may find that I am attempting to
ensure that our users - about a thousand a day, all told - get
both sides of the story. I recently compiled indexes for the
history of Australia and New Zealand, but was unable to do what I
considered a good job since I lacked the local connections to
ferret out enough of a variety of history sites to present a
balanced selection. New Zealand now has its own maintainer and
should develop with time, but Australia still lacks its own lord
and master. Consequently, I would like to invite you to join us.
And now for the ubiquitous form letter.
I would appreciate your looking through this form letter, which provides a
basic introduction to the nature of our project and is sent to every
person invited to join us.
If you would access
,
you will see the Central Catalogue of the network we are attempting to
construct, and within which you may note that only those subjects
listed in bold face are in the hands of their own maintainers. You should
then access
which provides specific information on our organization, aims and
progress.
WWW-VL History is, like all WWW-VL sites, completely unfunded, and the
maintainers of its sites are unpaid volunteers. Each is a fully-fledged
member of WWW-VL and this, since WWW-VL was the first "Virtual Library" of
the resources of the web, is something of a distinction, although one
appreciated only within rather restricted circles. WWW-VL offers some
additional attractions, including a discussion list closed to all but
maintainers, connections with a sizable and growing international group of
colleagues, and the opportunity to work within an active group that shares
an idea - even if it is rather vague - about what it hopes to do.
Nevertheless, it is not an easy matter to find volunteers to join us, and
we could not provide effective coverage if we were to wait for new members
to help us provide it.
I have been constructing indexes for separate countries to provide such
coverage and so that people wishing to join our group would be able simply
to copy them to their own site and develop them as they see fit. Since the
basic organization and construction is already in place, the maintenance
and development of an index consists primarily of 1) finding and
installing relevant new sites as they appear, 2) checking the links to
eliminate those that have been abandoned and to modify those the address
of which has been changed, 3) responding to recommendations of sites and
perhaps developing ties with resource centers and the like, and 4)
developing any additional historical areas or subjects you think
appropriate. An index should normally require only about two hours a week
to maintain in satisfactory fashion. I might add that I will find a place
for an index if the prospective maintainer has no such resource available.
Most of the Indexes I have constructed are merely beginnings since my
command of languages is restricted to those of western Europe and I cannot
pretend to be an expert in all of these fields. Our eventual goal is to
have an individual maintainer for each of our indexes, or groups of
maintainers for those topics not easily covered by a single person, but
that will require time and good fortune in finding the right people.
Please consider this invitation as an opportunity to over the entire world
a service by making knowledge available of a field in which you have
special skills and an abiding interest.
If you have any questions, I would be happy to try to answer them.
Lynn
Lynn Harry Nelson
lhnelson@raven.cc.ku.edu
Professor Emeritus of History
University of Kansas
Lawrence Kansas 66045-2030
USA
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
From: Katja
To: milkbar@milkbar.com.au
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 14:56:37 -0500
X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail
Subject: local history wired
X-Accept-Language: en
Hi, Craig,
I live in Washington, DC, a town with no milkbars, strange politics and
lots of cars and I really liked your site. Roy Rosenzweig from the
Center for History and New Media gave me the URL (and told me to say
HI), since I am working on a proposal for a class project on putting
the history of a local park, Malcolm X/Meridian Hill Park, online. The
project, which is still a toddler, will present oral histories with
residents on their memories and perceptions of the park, which is why
your site is really interesting to me.
For the project, it would greatly help me to get your reflections on a
couple of ideas, since your local history project has been online for
quite a while....
I'd be happy to call you, but since you live in Australia and the time
difference is so big, it will be easiest to do it via e-mail -- is that
o.k.?
First, I am curious how the people of Fitzroy use your site -- do they
go online a lot? Do they give you feedback? And if they do, how do you
incorporate the feedback into the site?
I really liked your oral histories, because they are genuinely designed
for the Web and are audible -- which software did you use? And how did
you manage to keep them so short?
Great -- I hope I am not bothering you and am looking forward to
hearing from you,
Cheers, Katja
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:27:46 +1100
From: Julian Silverman
To:
Subject: Re: milkbar site
Thanks Craig
I finally got to look at the site and I loved it.
Its a very interesting site and its put together in a really coherant way. I like the humour in it as ell!
See you around the faculty i hope
Cheers
Julian
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
From: Julian Savage
To: milkbar@milkbar.com.au
Bcc:
Subject: Maps
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:09:35 +1000
Map making, along with bibles, book of hours (personal spiritual guidance texts), government legislation and insignia (titles, licences, etc) and accountancy were the earliest (hand) printed dcuments. Maps began as a Eurocentric conflagration of the unknown - one does not need a map of one's own backyard because one can traverse it relatively assuredly. Therefor maps were more often than not of 'the known world' (i.e, the world outside one's backyard) and closely linked to expansion and colonialism - the need to travel somewhere safely in order to conquer, exploit, etc. As I presume the jefferson village is about as global as the village seen by doncaster councillors peering confusedly into their virtual one, one can ascertain that the points of reference (pun intended) have not really changed. An image comes to mind: t(here) stands the 'explorer/academic/councillor' telescope pressed up against the eye, trying to focus on the one remaining follicle left on the pate of a colleague who is reassuringly t(here) in the mapped world.
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:26:26 -0400
To: Craig Bellamy
From: Jay Ruby
Subject: Re: Oak Park
Craig,
I will look at your site as soon as our exams are over. I have a small listserv DIGETH for people involved in making digital ethnographies. I am certain subsrbiers would like to know about your work. Shall I subscribe you?
Jay Ruby
Temple University
PO Box 128, Mifflintown, PA 17059
My Web page is http://www.temple.edu/anthro/ruby/jayruby.html
Link to my new book, Picturing Culture - http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/13964.ctl
Link to a description of my ethnographic study of Oak Park, IL - http://astro.ocis.temple.edu/~ruby/opp
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:12:10 +1100
To: milkbar@milkbar.com.au
From: Helen Morgan
Subject: Link to Federation and Meteorology
Cc: gavan@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au, joannee@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Dear Craig,
I was very pleased to find a link to the Federation and Meteorology website
at milkbar.com.au and interested to read your comments (feedback of this
nature is always great and we need more of it!). The site was not, however,
developed by Tim Sherratt, but by the Australian Science and Technology
Heritage Centre at the University of Melbourne. I can see how this reading
might occur from the "Design & content" reference to Tim on the few
exhibition pages at the front (the only pages designed by Tim, who was one
of many contributing authors), although the DC metatag NAME="DC.Creator" LANG="en" CONTENT="Australian Science and Technology
Heritage Centre"> on all the pages clearly states we are the creator. Could
you please correct this information on your pages? I have removed the
reference so there is no further misunderstanding.
Cheers,
Helen
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Helen Morgan - Research and Development
Australian Science and Technology Heritage Centre
Phone: +61 3 8344 9373 Fax: +61 3 9349 4630
AustehcWeb! on http://www.austehc.unimelb.edu.au
-----> Austehc - Discover Australia's Scientific Heritage
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posted by Craig Bellamy at Tuesday, May 28, 2002
From: "alexis galatariotis" gala_al@hotmail.com
To: milkbar@milkbar.com.au
Bcc:
Subject: hi
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:43:46 +0000
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2002 20:43:46.0964 (UTC) FILETIME=[EBB50540:01C1D9BD]
Hi, i read your articles on globalisation and i found them both very interesting and well researched. I have a project to do on globalisation and i would really appreciate it if you could give me an opinon on it or some useful sites you might have written or read. My project question has the following title : "Is globalisation eroding the power and individuality of local communities?"
I hope you can help, thanks a lot
Alexander
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